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    Default Some People Need to Take it Easy

    People with lots of toxins need to take it easy at first. If you mobilize lots of toxins and don't eliminate enough, you will feel awful.

    Here are indicators that you might need to take it easy:
    1. Seriously overweight - The body stores toxins in fat cells when it runs out of room in the liver. Serious overweight indicates there may be lots of toxins and waste to eliminate.
    2. Multiple-year history of medical drugs - Antibiotics every few years for infections are probably not much to worry about. Sleeping pills every night for ten years is another situation. If you are on, or have had, heavy psych drugs, chemotherapy, etc. you should definitely check with your health professional.
    3. Allergic to many things - Alternative medicine equates allergies with toxic reactions. If you are only allergic to bananas, that's probably not too serious. If you are allergic to 15 things, you need to take it easy.

    If you need to take it easy, see the topic "[color="blue"]Taking it Easy[/color]."

    Peter

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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    Hello Peter,

    My 22 year old son wants to do the MC this month... which is great.. However I am uncertain about the absorbtion of salt in the SSF. He isn't allowed to have salt. His kidney function is extremely low and he has to take medications and do a type of kidney dialysis 4 times a day at home. I know he is full of toxins that have to be released. Would doing the SSF be a problem? The salt water is supposed to be heavy enough so it doesn't get absorbed and just flushes through. He could start off with the sena teas in the p.m. / a.m. then move on to trying a SSF. Medical Doctors are not very open to alternative approaches as I am sure you are aware. Do you think the MC could actually help improve his condition?

    Thanks for you input

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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    Hi Winks:

    Hopefully Peter will be able to chime in on this - but in the meantime, I would say "err on the side of caution". Your son can safely use the tea morning and night. I know how doctors can be about the cleanse but it would be best to consult a doctor before using the swf if you have concerns. None of us are licensed health care professionals.

    All the best to you and your son whatever you decide. Keep us posted.

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    A few years back, my doctor diagnosed me with a heart murmur. It was my understanding that there was no real threat but I would need to take antibiotics when I went to the dentist to err on the side of caution. Do you have any statistics that support fasting for someone with my "condition"?

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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    People with lots of toxins need to take it easy at first. If you mobilize lots of toxins and don't eliminate enough, you will feel awful.

    Here are indicators that you might need to take it easy:
    1. Seriously overweight - The body stores toxins in fat cells when it runs out of room in the liver. Serious overweight indicates there may be lots of toxins and waste to eliminate.
    2. Multiple-year history of medical drugs - Antibiotics every few years for infections are probably not much to worry about. Sleeping pills every night for ten years is another situation. If you are on, or have had, heavy psych drugs, chemotherapy, etc. you should definitely check with your health professional.
    3. Allergic to many things - Alternative medicine equates allergies with toxic reactions. If you are only allergic to bananas, that's probably not too serious. If you are allergic to 15 things, you need to take it easy.

    If you need to take it easy, see the topic "[color="blue"]Taking it Easy[/color]."

    Peter
    I keep starting and stopping the cleanse after a day or two being on it. I'm not seeming to get over the 3rd day hump. Are there any health risk to that, will I get constipated or could in hurt me internally. I like doing this.

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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    I personally don't think starting and stopping is not good for your body.

    try figuring out what is causing you to cheat on the 3rd day and once you identify the problem, you can take steps to avoid it and get past it.

    also, maybe you're not mentally prepared or mentally focused right now.

    there is also the possibility that you're too toxic and should first try going gradually into it - try cutting out meat and dairy for a week, then going raw for a week then going into the cleanse.



    ____taken from the general help for newbies thread__________
    How often?
    As per Burroughs instructions, 3 or 4 times a year means ever 3 to 4 months. Seasonally even. Cleansing too frequently can be harmful on the body as well as the mind. However Burroughs does say that those with serious health issues can cleanse more often than 3 times a year. He also suggests a diet plan to do in between cleanses so you do not go back to normal eating and yo-yo cleansing.

    Starting and stopping digestion can be jarring on your system and confusing to your body. Also, after a cleanse your body and metabolism need time to restabilize so the shortest recommended time between cleanses is 6 to 8 weeks.

    The MC is good for you, but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

    Known side effects of long or too frequent cleanses are hair loss and rapid weight gain.

    -- If fasting is overused, it may create depletion and weakness, lower resistance, and allow diseases to begin. Certain people are not good candidates for fasting or cleansing. Others may enjoy fasting so much that they overindulge in it and take it beyond the limits of normal elimination, resulting in protein and other nutritional deficits, reduced immunity, and loss of energy. While fasting allows the organs, tissues, and cells to rest, clean house, and handle excesses, the body needs the nourishment provided by food to function after it has used its stores. (from http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp?ID=1996)
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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    I did the fast for the first time Jan 3-9. I pretty much stopped on the evening of the 8th due to obligations.

    I just started again yesterday and plan on doing the full 10 days. Is that too soon? I'm not highly toxic at all, but I've been very stressed and feeling very anxious and sluggish internally so I decided to help myself out with a cleanse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ican'tbelieveI'mdoingthis
    I keep starting and stopping the cleanse after a day or two being on it. I'm not seeming to get over the 3rd day hump. Are there any health risk to that, will I get constipated or could in hurt me internally. I like doing this.
    Hi, I have just joined, and I'm seeking guidance on this topic too, as my situation is relatively complicated. Unfortunately, I meet all the criteria you outline here, and I am a 55-year-old woman who is in awful condition. I think I probably have rheumatoid arthritis, I've been struggling with increasing pain and disability for years, and in the last few months, after a bout of "walking pneumonia," my strength left almost completely, the pains in my legs started into my arms, neck and back, and I am in 24-hour pain and debility; Flu-like symptoms have been a problem all along, but are worse now, and I am exhausted very easily. I have experimented with alternative cures for years. I actually did ten days of the lemonade cleanse a number of years ago, and it was fine. But I'm pretty fragile now, and am wondering if I should modify it a bit. I have a strong spiritual practice of some 30 years, and am guided in this, but I do not have insurance, and am fairly sure I know what my doctor would say anyway if I suggested this. I wonder if it would be almost as good if I were to use the lemonade throughout the day, and eat a large salad or something like that at night; organic veggies, etc. Perhaps this would lessen the shock? I really feel I need to take drastic measures, and was happy to find this forum, because I feel there will be support here. All suggestions appreciated!

    Eklutna

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    Default Re: Some People Need to Take it Easy

    Hi Eklutna,
    I think the best bet for you right now is to start slow. Start by cutting out all meat and dairy for a week. Then going raw. Then doing juice for at least 3 days. Then start the cleanse. Your body will start detoxing from just cutting out meat and dairy and even more so when you go raw. Doing it so slowly gives your body the chance to start detoxing and to adjust over time and lessens the possible shock. It also helps you build up self control and start taking a walk in the right direction to help your health.
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    Hi, My first nite to join and review the site. I,too am soooooo very frustrated and now after reading the cautions, am afraid I SHOULD NOT START THE MC! I had spine fusion L4-L5 surgery Jan. 3rd and have been and still are on high doses of pain med's (fentanyl & Nocor). I feel like I am so very toxic right now from all the med's and surgery, I just want to MC! I am very constipated from the pain med's, retaining an incredible amount of water from poor circulation (injury to artery) and I feel like a cow! I wanted to do the MC so I could feel more like who I use to be. What will I experience if I do the MC while still taking the pain med's? I am slowly weining off, but that takes time too. The doc says NO to going cold turkey off the med's, says to dangerous. I was hoping to MC and wein from the med's at the same time. What do you think? I could really use a helping hand right now. This is the toughest time I've ever experience and the MC sounded like the answer. HELP!
    Last edited by tiniateresa; March 20th, 2007 at 10:52 PM.

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