Starting October 2nd! ANY ADVICE?!

[lisamarie1081]

Hi All!

I'm thinking of starting the MC on October 2nd ... next Monday. It's really the only good stretch of time I've got -- company lunch on wed, away on business this wed night and thurs, going home to visit Mom this weekend. I'll only be doing it through the following Sunday (Oct 8th) because I go away on business again on the 10th and I want to be eating food by that time. I've noticed that for people who are unfamiliar with cleansing, they believe it to be potentially dangerous and my personal favorite, an extreme diet of sorts (ie. just to lose weight ... in their world, another way to anorexia).

Just wanted to introduce myself, though, and give a little background so that I might get some advice from experience. I have done the cleanse once before for 3 days with great success in as much as I wasn't cheating. But I got extremely disheartened by the lack of effects of the SWF. I felt as though i might be hurting my body by ingesting all of that salt and not excreting it. That's what caused me to quit. Last night, I spent hours reading various posts and I'm less concerned about it now. The SWF is not pleasant ... I still have some fear that since I'm only doing it for 7 days (and some people still don't have success with the SWF after 8 days) that I may go the entire cleanse without actually CLEANSING. That fact has prompted me to look into colonics during the fast. I KNOW, I KNOW! Stanley says NO COLONICS! But getting some out is better than getting none out, right? Has anyone else ever broken this rule with little harm done? I understand that everyone's got a differing opinion on the issue ... just some advice would help. I'm thinking of doing two, maybe one on Tuesday (3rd) and Friday (6th) or maybe two in the beginning to get things rolling.

Why am I doing the cleanse beyond obvious reasons? My colon has always been sluggish. Sometimes it just doesn't work. That's been the case for the last month or so. It frustrates me to high Heaven because I know how that organ is SUPPOSED TO function. Am I vegetarian? No. Do I follow all of the natural health - care for your body rules? No. I know them all, but have the will power to follow few. ANYWAY, I digress. I have taken what are essentially herbal laxatives for the past 4 years. I usually have success with them (they work everyday) unless there is some unusual stressor in my life. Currently, I just started a new (and my first ever!) job (with social challenges evident already), moved into a new apartment and have a 7-month-new boyfriend.

Long story short, I need to get clean, and i need to lose the pills. My poor digestive system is always bombarded.

So ..... any advice? Shoot it my way!

Thanks!

[Res]

Hi Lisa,

Welcome Aboard!

A seven day cleanse can't hurt, but it's not doing the cleanse justice either. Perhaps you can schedule a cleanse when you can go the entire 10 days.

Some people see amazing results right away, others don't but will see results futher into the cleanse. Logically, giving your body a break from food and digesting IS doing it a world of good whether or not you see the results in pounds lost.

Hmm, should I go the route of colonics? Since you already know that Burroughs doesn't recommend it I'll just throw in a tiny blurb: the SWF moves everything down and OUT, the colonic pushes it up first and then down but doesn't reach the length of the colon as the swf does. If the swf hasn't worked well for you have you thought of increasing the amount of salt? Are you doing the tea the night before?

How much "water" do you drink and what's your diet like? Yadda, yadda, yadda. I'm sure you know the ropes. Your body needs fiber and water to move the waste out. Veggies are the best. Figs, dates and prunes work like Roto Rooter. Food for thought.

Love,
~Res

[redkitty]

Hi Lisa,

Ive had results with the SWF the first day. I have done the cleanse exactly as Stanley wrote in his book. Tea at night, SWF in the morning.

I think Res has given some great advice! Try the cleanse for ten days just as he says in the book. Adding more salt to the flush until you find what works for you.

Good luck and hope you stick around here, great people and great support!!
Jenn

[HealthyBiz]

Hi lisamarie and welcome!

You hooked me in your first paragraph. Kindred spirits here!

On this, my first cleanse, I'm turning into a real purist. LOL! The only area of my life I think I can say that about! Anyway, you can guess I'm not going to support a colonic during the cleanse. Res always has the best advice. Here's some other thoughts:

If you really want to do the colonic, why not try it BEFORE the cleanse and schedule another one for AFTER! Best of all worlds, you get your colonic rinse and still give the full system rinse (SWF) a chance to work. Since the SWF didn't work well for you before, be sure to add a little extra salt on your first day. Don't wait to add it! That way, you'll have the potential for better results. And invest in the Celtic Sea Salt - much more palatable.

Also, keep in mind that Burroughs (and other fasting experts) recommend that you NOT stop the cleanse if you are in the middle of a detox episode, so if you are experiencing detox symptoms on Day 7, your body wants to stay on the cleanse. Your choice, then, but know that it will be more difficult to go off of it then and you will need to treat your body gently, kindly by introducing foods at a slower rate than you might otherwise.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

[fancy1]

If you want to include the P&B shakes wait at least five days before beginning. This allows the lemonade drink to begin to soften the thick mucus lining the bowel. Begin by taking one P&B shake thirty to sixty minutes before your first lemonade of the day. The first day use only one shake so your body can get used to the added fiber. Be sure and drink a full glass of water right after the shake. Try and drink a glass of water every hour if you can. Psyllium can absorb 40x its weight in liquid and its absolutely essential to drink enough water to hydrate the body and "feed" the psyllium. The next day you can try having a shake both morning and night. If that works for you then add a third shake mid-day. Some people take up to five shakes a day, but three was usually enough for me.

At first what you see will be ropes of the psyllium with bits and pieces of old fecal matter. It may require several cleanses before the long ropes of mucoid plaque are expelled on their own.

You can complete your Master Cleanse and then begin the P&B cleanse or start in the middle of the MC. The most important thing is to fast on the drink without any added fiber for several days to soften things up. Never do the salt water flush when using P&Bs. They can prevent the salt water from pushing on through you and allow unhealthy amounts of salt to be absorbed.

[bayareababe]

Hi All!

I'm thinking of starting the MC on October 2nd ... next Monday. It's really the only good stretch of time I've got -- company lunch on wed, away on business this wed night and thurs, going home to visit Mom this weekend. I'll only be doing it through the following Sunday (Oct 8th) because I go away on business again on the 10th and I want to be eating food by that time. I've noticed that for people who are unfamiliar with cleansing, they believe it to be potentially dangerous and my personal favorite, an extreme diet of sorts (ie. just to lose weight ... in their world, another way to anorexia).

Just wanted to introduce myself, though, and give a little background so that I might get some advice from experience. I have done the cleanse once before for 3 days with great success in as much as I wasn't cheating. But I got extremely disheartened by the lack of effects of the SWF. I felt as though i might be hurting my body by ingesting all of that salt and not excreting it. That's what caused me to quit. Last night, I spent hours reading various posts and I'm less concerned about it now. The SWF is not pleasant ... I still have some fear that since I'm only doing it for 7 days (and some people still don't have success with the SWF after 8 days) that I may go the entire cleanse without actually CLEANSING. That fact has prompted me to look into colonics during the fast. I KNOW, I KNOW! Stanley says NO COLONICS! But getting some out is better than getting none out, right? Has anyone else ever broken this rule with little harm done? I understand that everyone's got a differing opinion on the issue ... just some advice would help. I'm thinking of doing two, maybe one on Tuesday (3rd) and Friday (6th) or maybe two in the beginning to get things rolling.

Why am I doing the cleanse beyond obvious reasons? My colon has always been sluggish. Sometimes it just doesn't work. That's been the case for the last month or so. It frustrates me to high Heaven because I know how that organ is SUPPOSED TO function. Am I vegetarian? No. Do I follow all of the natural health - care for your body rules? No. I know them all, but have the will power to follow few. ANYWAY, I digress. I have taken what are essentially herbal laxatives for the past 4 years. I usually have success with them (they work everyday) unless there is some unusual stressor in my life. Currently, I just started a new (and my first ever!) job (with social challenges evident already), moved into a new apartment and have a 7-month-new boyfriend.

Long story short, I need to get clean, and i need to lose the pills. My poor digestive system is always bombarded.

So ..... any advice? Shoot it my way!

Thanks!

Hi Lisa marie and welcome!

Sorry i disagree with fancy-

the reason they say NO P and B during the MC is that is has to be digested and that is not what we want our bodies to have to do during the MC. We want our digestive system to SLOW down and work at getting the toxins out and to detox. The lemonade is in liquid form already. The P and B or even just the psyllium has to broken down into a liquid state. Not good. It is Not reccommended on the MC. It has the same effect on the body as if you were eating food during the MC! So think about that. Believe me, up your water, drink the LAX tea both am and pm if you do not like the SWF, or try celtic grey sea salt, that has a much milder taste. You will get results. Do your colonic before or after, not during. It really defeats the purpose here.

babe
MC3 day 9

[FoxyKaT]

Bayareababe...

I did my first PB shake last night, Now after reading a lot more on it, I am goign to hold off and do it when I am finished. I am on day 7 of the MC... did I ruin what I have doneup to now by doing the PB shake??? Please help...

Thanks

[bayareababe]

Bayareababe...

I did my first PB shake last night, Now after reading a lot more on it, I am goign to hold off and do it when I am finished. I am on day 7 of the MC... did I ruin what I have doneup to now by doing the PB shake??? Please help...

Thanks

well........... you did just activate your digestive system again by doing that. It has to break up the P and B and not reccommened at all on the MC Wondering why after 6 days you would decide to do the P and B, just curious, not blaming. I would put an extra two or three days onto your MC. Did you do searches on here? It would have said not do, along with Peters advise. It makes the body stop removing toxins and detoxing in order to break down the P and B.

**** just found peters answer to this, it is in adding anything to the MC
A P & B shake is a pysillum, bentonite clay and water mixture.

Psyllium husk comes from the crushed seeds of the Plantago ovata plant, an herb native to parts of Asia (India and Iran, for example), Mediterranean regions of Europe, and North Africa. Similar to oats and wheat, psyllium is rich in soluble fiber. It bulks up and forms a gel when mixed with water.

Bentonite is a volcanic clay that swells to about 15 times its original volume when placed in water. Like a highly porous sponge, it absorbs and binds toxins through electrical attraction.

Many other colon cleanses use P & B shakes to mechanically push waste out of the colon. I haven't yet done any P & B shake cleanses, so I can't compare them myself.

The Master Cleanse takes a different approach and dissolves the waste. That's one of the reasons you're only getting liquid eliminations. As for adding P & B shakes to the Master Cleanse, I don't recommend it because it isn't any part of Burroughs' instructions. I always recommend people follow Burroughs' instructions exactly because they result in great benefits for the vast majority of people. I can't say what will happen with alterations, such as adding P & B shakes. After all, one of the purposes of not eating is to give the digestive system a rest so the body can devote its energy to eliminating waste.
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Hope this helps... just continue on the MC as is.

babe
MC3 day 16

[FoxyKaT]

Thanks bay for getting back to me...

Booooooooooo great! So instead of day 7, I am back to day 1... I want to cry. I wanted to do a 21 maybe more day cleanse.

I went on another site and read there that they said it was good to do it at the same time and I also read on here a few memebers said they were all for it.

I read more this morning though and realized that it's better to stop the PB.

I feel sad...

SO its day 1 for me now?????????????????

[bayareababe]

Thanks bay for getting back to me...

Booooooooooo great! So instead of day 7, I am back to day 1... I want to cry. I wanted to do a 21 maybe more day cleanse.

I went on another site and read there that they said it was good to do it at the same time and I also read on here a few memebers said they were all for it.

I read more this morning though and realized that it's better to stop the PB.

I feel sad...

SO its day 1 for me now?????????????????

no, just add a few more days to your MC. Read posts from senior members, and from this site from those who have been around the block a few times. Do you have the book? It is a straight forward, simple recipe. Just do not add things that don't belong there. I think I know the other site you are talking about and they give out all kinds of misinformation! The other site is BAD news! And egos to boot! Some people say it is ok, but they do not have the correct information about what this cleanse is actually accomplishing then. This is truely the site to be in Peter has done years of research, wrote the companion book and done tons of surveys of those who have done this, and done it the correct way.

Curious as to why the P and B?

Just do the MC they way it is written, and you will be fine.

hugzzzzzzzz

babe