Salt water flush

[cae1016]

Hi all-
Day 4 here. I managed to drink half of my SWF this morning!! First time, drinking and keeping it down. Thank you to those who suggested the Celtic Grey. Nothing has happened, and thats probably because I only did the half dose, or because, is it possible that since I haven't eaten anything in 4 days, there is nothing left in there to come out????

I wanted to answer the question about the using fine or coarse seasalt. You should definetly use the coarse. Or atleast change the amount you use if using fine. I was in talking with the owner of the health food store. We looked at the mineral amounts in the fine vs. coarse. It basically comes down to this. You begin with 2 teaspoons of coarse...if you were to grind it into fine, you would have more than 2 teaspoons. There were many more minerals in the fine per serving than in the coarse. I think that it would be much harder to drink the fine, if you use the normal dose the MC cleanse requires.
Just my thoughts.

Last night I was STARVING!!! Well I thought I was anyhow. I was really craving potato chips (which ironically is a salty food). Anyone have any suggestions why?

[mtmouse]

Coco - Rinsing out your mouth with plain water after the SWF gets rid of the taste.

Cae - I grind my own Celtic salt, and I measure after grinding. It's still not particularly fine, but I need to use 1 Tbsp (3 tsp) in order to get results.

All that said, my experience with the SWF this time is completely different from my other two cleanses. On day 1, I drank it, had my usual near-immediate rush to the bathroom, then several more. Business as usual. And then, it kept happening again and again throughout the day! It just wouldn't stop. My stomach rumbled all day and my body kept dumping. The need to rush was [sometimes] a bit less, but I definitely kept going and going.

Then this morning, day 2, I drank it all again, and nothing! And yet, even after having drunk the quart and having virtually nothing come back out (and a quart weighs 2 pounds!), I'm down more than a pound from yesterday. Go figure. I don't feel "backed up", and I feel in no danger at all from any sudden surprises, but it's certainly different.

Anyway, the SWF is a strange and wonderful thing! Just gotta go with the flow.

[sopheetsa]

somehow mtmouse I should not be surprised you grind your own (Celtic) salt- how could I expect anything less from someone who grinds her spelt? nevertheless I have to say I'm impressed-- and furthermore-- I was jolted out of my complacency, by this and other posts!

here I thought there was nothing more to know, I've done the SWF more than a hundred days now, what could be more simple, and what more was there to know?

well, as I said a bit earlier on in this thread, at the back of my mind, I kept wondering if there was a traditional culture that practises something like the SWF, and I thought- most likely it must be part of some yogic tradition. sure enough, phil.grimm, mentioned it was (in his blog), and today I looked into it a bit further...partly because I took the time to read more of this SWF thread from the beginning and a post by lynnjackson from 3 years ago (!) mentions a website:

One Week Salt Water Cleanse<--click for link

on a salt water cleanse..."for the exercises only".

Well that gave me a tip on the name of the yogic practice (although there are variations on the spelling:

Shankhaprakshalana<--click for link

Another widely used dhauti technique, Shank means 'conch' and prakshalana means 'to wash completely'. This practice helps to wash the conch shaped intestines. It is a systematic and gentle method of completely washing the entire alimentary canal from the mouth to the anus. How shankhaprakshalana helps to remove stress? Toxic build-up in the digestive system produces a digestive stress, eventually resulting in different types of digestive disorders. These toxins are also circulated to other parts of the body where they again become a cause of stress and imbalance. By cleaning the entire digestive tract, we eliminate one of the major causes of physical stress, imbalance and disease, and thereby promote the health of the entire body.

Reading some of the many benefits of this "cleanse" (the salt water flush alone)-- convinces me all the more that the Master Cleanse really is pure genius!

Salt Water Flush Benefits:

• The effects won't appear immediately, but after 2-3 days, manifest as freshness of the breath, better sleep, disappearance of rushes and pimples, a general state of lightness in the body, improved digestion.
• The sweat becomes odorless.
• The skin and especially the complexion bright, the glance becomes radiant and magnetic.
• Increases the strength of the immune system.
• Regulates the metabolism, bringing balance in the body - therefore people who are overweight might harmoniously lose some weight and people who are too skinny might gain a few kilograms.

Salt Water Cleaning Provides relief for these ailments:

• Chronic headaches
• Diseases of the eye, nose, teeth, heart, abdomen, and rectum
• Appendicitis
• Damaged intestines
• Inflammation of the digestive tract
• Intestinal worms
• Menstrual irregularities
• Diseases connected to the organs of reproduction
• All the 25 kinds of urethral infection and affections known in the Ayurvedic medicine.

But at the back of my mind there was a nagging worry: I work at a medical research institute, and someone (who is an obesity surgeon, of all things) warned me that drinking salt water is very dangerous for the kidneys. I wanted to believe he was wrong, I told him: the Salt Water Flush isn't ABSORBED if you you do it correctly... but still I couldn't help from worrying about this. Well, sure enough, quite a few people in the yoga community were concerned about the practice (this from having read a number of different websites) and amazingly, a study was done by the

YOGA RESEARCH FOUNDATION<--click for link

to determine:

1. The quantity of salted water that is retained and excreted by the GI tract.
2. The time taken for the absorbed water to be excreted by the kidneys.
3. The difference between the effects of normal (0.9%) salt solution and half-strength (0.45%) salt solution.
4. The effect of PSP on the circulatory system.

You can read the long version by clicking on the link, but the short version is:

CONCLUSION

Only 15% of the water is absorbed into the circulatory system in PSP performed with normal salt solution, but 50% of the water is absorbed when half-strength salt solution is used. The greater the quantity of water absorbed, the longer the kidneys take to excrete it - about 12 hours or more. For people with jeopardized kidney, heart or vascular functions, this may not be advisable. One may think that by reducing the salt content the safety of the practice will increase. In fact, by reducing the salt content the practice becomes unsafe. Hence, it is advisable to observe the contra-indications diligently and to avoid modifying the practice of PSP. While the results in Stage 2 are from people with NIDDM, it is expected that similar results would be seen in people in good health.
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Finally, I am embarrassed to admit, another issue that I only thought about recently, thanks to a whole bunch of posts (including one from christinem, another from talitha and now you too mtmouse!) as well as PMs from MsTaz and Res(live and learn!): I never really thought enough about the salt I use! I bought it at the health food store, and the label said: "non-iodized sea salt"-- so I thought that should be good enough! Well, I didn't begin to realize that there's a lot of things to consider about salt, and among them--processed salt includes anti-caking ingredients, which mine did. (Mine is Hain). So now, I have to go get Celtic and I hope I won't have to grind mine...

Wish you all the best on your healing journey!

[Coco]

I think I know why I don't have immediate or extreme results with the SWF:
I wake up and go right away in the am from the Lax tea.

I have rarely had a problem with constipation so the lax tea works really really well for me. I went already yesterday and today BEFORE I SWF'd. So there is not much left waiting to be "flushed out"

That is the only reason I can think of. it is 8:30 and I just finished the 32 oz / 2 tsp of celtic sea salt (love Whole Foods). I am thinking that I will go in about 2 hours.. until then..Coco needs to get some more zzzz.

Co

[cae1016]

Good Mornign all.
Day 5 here for me, and new symptoms have appeared. I realize this is a SWF thread, but after reading Sophee's reply, think that the SWF may have something to do with the symptom. Yesterday I could only get half of the SWF down. Since the Lax tea has been working finally, I'm not sure what was SWF and what was tea. I spent most of yesterday in bed.... very tired. I think I slept 15 hours. I did sleep very good though. However I missed the tea last night (as I was sleeping), and woke this morning with alot of pain in my kidneys. My urine was about the color of the maple syrup. A little scary, but still not backing off the fast.

Sophee, I commend you for 100 days. Not sure how you are doing it. I was shooting for 40 days, but being realistic I am working towards 10.

Also, I just watned to say, that I have read some of the other threads, and I like this one the best. People seem to actually reply to one another on this thread. I enjoy getting up in the morning to see what others have said from the day before. It's definetly a positive influence to know there are others feeling the same way I do.

[healthyintentions]

Hello all!

I'm with Soph...for whatever reason, I was compelled to read the SWF thread, although I've always had great results, and have had relative ease with drinking the full 32 oz. in a short amount of time...HOWEVER, I also have the Hain product and have been curious about the Celtic Gray. I didn't think it necessary, since I didn't have trouble with the SWF and I was under the impression that the Celtic Gray just went down easier due to taste...

Live & learn, eh? I also just learned about a brine solution that one should take daily for opitmal health. I don't have the website handy, but when I find it, I'll forward it on!

I LOVE SYNCHRONISTIC MOMENTS LIKE THIS!

Time to go potty! ~HealthyIntentions

[Bebe]

For people with jeopardized kidney, heart or vascular functions, this may not be advisable. One may think that by reducing the salt content the safety of the practice will increase. In fact, by reducing the salt content the practice becomes unsafe. Hence, it is advisable to observe the contra-indications diligently and to avoid modifying the practice of PSP. While the results in Stage 2 are from people with NIDDM, it is expected that similar results would be seen in people in good health.

Sopheesta: I am humbled by your scientific approach to the MC and all the components therein and brought to my knees in awe at the length of time you stay on the MC. Stamina and will-power have never been my strengths. Being a Diabetic, I was very interested in this article and read it through, however, am not sure, as I have not received my books and supplies yet to be able to start...Is the SWF solution 0.9% on the MC? I do have to be mindful of my kidneys and have only seen old posts of 1 diabetic with no significant info for my benefit, i.e. no mention of blood sugar results, etc. When I do finally start, I will be posting those types of things so other diabetics with reservations can find some answers to whether this is safe for them to do.

This is one of my final reservations about doing the cleanse and have read everything (amazing how addicted I am to this BB!) as far back as Jan 2004 on every thread. I do tend to research things thoroughly. Thank you for any help you can give me on this.

[hawkjeff]

I'm at the start of Day 5 of my first MC. All is going well and except for my nose running non-stop since I started, I really feel quite great. Like others on here, I was hesitant to try the SWF. The Senna tea appears to be causing me 3-4 BM per day and I've never had a problem with my body failing to expel things. I've felt like the cleanse has been quite productive with tea doing dual duty in terms of cleaning me out.

My question for those more experienced with the MC than me, is whether the benefit of the SWF is simply to help you have BMs or if there is additional benefit. If the tea is doing its job, am I still cheating myself out of some component of this cleanse by not doing SWF also?

Thoughts?

[christinem]

I send my kind regards to our science guru Sopheesta, Sophia is greek for wisdom, isn't it, wise one?? Many have quoted the 1/2 oz water per pound of weight a day without giving credit to its source, Dr. Batmanghelidj, an Iranian born physician residing in Falls Church, Va. who discovered water as a cure for ulcers early in his career as a physician in a prison boasting little else to use for medicine. Dr's book, "Your body's many cries for water" comes highly recommended. www.watercure2.com
His formula for curing many illnesses incorporates seasalt as well as water, appx 1/4 tsp for every quart of water comsumed. There is alot of
opposition to this level of self-healing by forces that are below the level of conscious awareness...It is very important to include some kind of blessing
for healing & for protection to those humanitarians who strive to bring such simple miracles to all of us out of a simple thought to bless mankind.This includes Peter, may he and his ever be blessed & protected for sponsoring this site for all of us to grow, share & learn. Bless your water, lemonade, tea and food before ingesting, don't consume mindlessly, for best results & blessing for all others striving to uplift self & others.
Dr Batmanghelidj has alot of diagrams of physiological processes &
prescribes extra water for edema! No salt for a few days, but increased water, adding a few grains of salt judiciously, gradually, for healing heart problems, diabetes, deafness, back pain...you name it. Many anecdotal stories follow. (I know, unimpressive to the science types)
Christine
MC #3 in process, day 6

[bobexy]

What would happen if I use normal salt? It won't work?

Anyway I did my first flush today (Day 3) and I used sea salt. I honestly did not expect it to work but it did!

Is it ok I started on Day 3? I tried yesterday but it didnt work.